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PostSubject: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:28 pm

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/a9f8d786aaea484191ae30132941871f/WV--XGR-Animals/

"require owners of exotic animals to obtain state permits by July and ban all future purchases or sales of these animals."

"Sen. Dave Sypolt, R-Preston, voted against the bill because it is too broad and gives the DNR too much discretion to decide what animals end up on the list. He said the rules could restrict owning a parrot or a goldfish."

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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:08 am

Apparently the intent was to ban tigers and chimps and exotics that most folks probably shouldn't consider owning without special training and permits. I'm not inherently opposed to that, but wording is everything with something like this. "Exotic" means many things. I also think an absolute ban is extreme, depending on what species are covered. But permits and regulation... for certain types of exotics, sure.
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:18 am

Unfortunately, like some other Acts and laws if it's too broad it will pretty much make everything illegal to own.

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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:25 am

It's a slippery slope folks..

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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:52 am

West by God Virginia y'all!
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:37 pm

please keep your laws down south...although some of it has merit


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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:58 pm

Did I say I agreed with it? I'm just not surprised, it is West Virginia. confused
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:07 pm

Those from the frozen northlands may not understand the full implications of West Virginia.....
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:54 pm

Then maybe they shouldn't be so quick to assume the worst.
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:31 pm

expect the worst and hope for the best...my mama taught me that...lol


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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:47 pm

I''m putting words in Dusty's mouth, but I'm thinking he didn't mean to personally implicate you, either!

I almost applied for a job in West Virginia a while back. There is a radio telescope facility there, out in the boonies of the boonies. That would have been interesting...
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:55 pm

thanks deb you are right again...all i am saying the law sucks, but if i need a dog license then they definately need one for a lion...but not birds...no disrespect to anyone here


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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:04 am

Guest - Look up what happened in the 1970's to pet birds in California due to Exotic Newcastles. Birds that had zero contact with chickens or were otherwise not exposed to END. Then talk about not expecting the worst . . .

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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:01 am

Uh oh, why did julsiebeans posts turn into "Guest"? It would be sad if she flew the coop.

Yep, it looks as if she left. De- friended me on FB too. Bummer!
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:50 am

Man you step away for a day and all Hell breaks loose. What's happening with Julsie? I hope you haven't left, we would miss you!

Just to keep to the topic, I don't necessarily disagree with licensing for pets of any kind, if the license has a purpose, like to ensure people don't have a tiger or rhino in the yard just because they want one. If it is being use to ensure the safety of the animals and to prevent abuse, then okay. If it is to pad some government office's coffers, then I have a big problem with it.
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:15 am

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Uh oh, why did julsiebeans posts turn into "Guest"? It would be sad if she flew the coop.

Yep, it looks as if she left. De- friended me on FB too. Bummer!

she de-friended me too...i must apologize again...my sick humour gets me in trouble...sorry, i feel really bad about this...please friends never take me serious...i like to make people laugh and make them happy...seems to be my goal in life

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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:05 pm

I don't know that it was you Dusty, I know it wasn't me... I think she just wanted a clean break with the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:16 pm

Dusty - I'm sure you're just fine.

Back to the animals - I agree that the average person just shouldn't willy nilly have a lion, tiger or bear OH MY! But perhaps permits and guidelines are the better way to go than to outright say no we can't have them.

Unfortunately, laws that in spirit are for the animals' welfare and human safety sometimes are not enforced with the spirit of the law in mind.
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PostSubject: Re: W.Va. Senate passes exotic animal ban bill, current owners would have to get state permits   Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:48 pm

that is ridiculous...that poor couple


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