Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot
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zazanomore Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:25 pm
I think you all know that I am a budgie fiend. Even though Einstein is my companion, my favorite species of bird is the budgerigar. In my opinion, they are the perfect pet bird.
A lot of people find them to be disposable, boring, small, stupid, and unimportant. When people think of parrots, the first thing that comes to mind is the Macaw, Cockatoo, and Grey. Everyone seems to forget the tiny budgie. They disregard them. They are a “starter” bird. Once you learn how to care for a budgie, then you graduate to a “real” parrot. They are not a bird in their own right. They are pushed aside, neglected and ignored.
When I talk to people, and I mention that I keep parrots, they always ask what kind of birds I own. At first, I would say with pride that I keep budgies and a cockatiel. That would immediately stop the conversation. No one cares about them. Everyone has had a budgie. I find myself now saying that I keep budgerigars or shell parrots. People are always fascinated by them then.
So, I’ve constructed a list of reasons why budgies make the perfect pet. They aren’t in any specific order or anything.
1- Intelligence
I’m sure most of us assume that the smartest parrots or African Greys (Alex). But budgies have their own intelligence. They have complex interpersonal relationships with each other. They can be taught pretty much any trick that a big bird can learn. They are very keen to learning new behaviours
Looking at my own flock, they are not person oriented. Though I have taught them basic commands, they don’t really do “tricks”. However, by watching their behaviours I can see great intelligence. They are problem solvers. If they don’t understand something, they try and try until they’ve mastered it. They are also fantastic at finding the faults in stuff. Bonnie in specific is great at destroying something. In the past she has figured out how to bring down perches, toys, and food bowls.
A showcase of some of the tricks that a budgie can be taught is seen in Michael’s budgie Duke:
2- Beauty
One thing about budgies that everyone knows is how many colors and mutations they come in. Unlike some of the other big birds, you can pretty much get a budgie in any color except for reds and oranges (though I’m sure in the future they’ll figure that out too).
3- Initial Cost and Cost of Care
Budgies are a popular pet and are basically available everywhere. Go to any big name pet store, and they are guaranteed to carry budgies. Though, this can be a downfall for them. A lot of budgies are inbred and poorly bred. They may be neglected and sick. That being said, there will always be a store that does care and carries healthy, happy birds. Most pet stores will sell untame budgies for around 25$ and tame budgies for 50$.
Even breeders have reasonable prices for their budgies. I’ve seen many breeders sell hand raised babies for less than what the big stores will sell them.
Compared to the bigger birds, budgies are quite inexpensive. Which means, you save more money for spending on supplies.
All parrots are expensive. I mean, I find that you will spend more money on keeping a parrot than you will ever spend on a dog or cat. It doesn’t matter the size of the bird, expect to pay a pretty penny for them.
On my budgies and cockatiel, I know that in the three years I’ve owned them, I’ve invested thousands of dollars in their care. Medical care, cages, toys, food…it actually makes me shudder to think of all the money I’ve spent. But, they are totally worth every penny.
Now, looking at budgies, they are significantly cheaper to keep than big birds. They require smaller cages, less room, go through perches and toys at a very slow rate, and their food is very reasonable.
4- Quiet
A downfall of owning parrots is they can get loud, very loud. See how loud they can be: http://www.mytoos.com/
Budgies are quiet. They very rarely scream. And when they do, it’s still quiet. Even groups, they are still quiet. They make sweet chittering and chatterings. It is actually very soothing. And a real benefit of them being quiet is the ability to keep them in many different household settings. They are fantastic for apartments. They never get loud enough to be a problem to neighbours. Many birds it would be a problem to keep in an apartment or townhouse settings. Even if a bird has a quiet disposition, they naturally make noise; it’s a part of who they are. At sunrise and sunset, expect your bird to get loud.
5- Ability of Speech and Mimicry
According to Wikipedia (which really isn’t that reliable), Puck, a male budgerigar owned by American Camille Jordan, holds the world record for the largest vocabulary of any bird, at 1,728 words. Though their voices aren’t as clear as an Amazon, they have cute little squeaky voices. Not all budgies will learn to talk, but even if they don`t they still make beautiful sounds.
My budgies favorite talking budgie is Mitso:
GlassOnion Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:31 pm
I totally agree! Budgies are actually my favourite too! *sigh*
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:42 pm
I had budgies as a kid, and years ago I had a pair. Those budgies to me were high strung, insane, and all they did was bitch at each other. Then I got Sushi. Gentle, regal, and extremely interested in everything everyone did. She won me over, and I have a whole new take on budgies. Before, they were in the "cute, but not for me" group. Now, I find myseld wanting a tame male English budgie.
patdbunny Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:33 pm
The downside is that it seems they're so inbred they drop dead way prematurely. Just on our little limited forum, how many have dropped dead within 1 year of acquisition? Statistically, it seems a very high percentage. Very sad and heart breaking to bond to a beloved little pet and have it die so soon.
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:47 pm
patdbunny wrote:
The downside is that it seems they're so inbred they drop dead way prematurely. Just on our little limited forum, how many have dropped dead within 1 year of acquisition? Statistically, it seems a very high percentage. Very sad and heart breaking to bond to a beloved little pet and have it die so soon.
I wonder if that happens as often with birds from private breeders?
VickiNumbers Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:55 pm
I tend to think not, though I'm sure there's bound to be some depending on the breeder. At the store where I work, I know they make it a point to try and "breed out" the bad genes that are inevitably going to come from some of the PetBox stores.
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:36 pm
Roz, this is my exact problem with budgies. I have bought 3 Budgies from the same Petsmart, 2 several years ago and then recently Sushi. 2 of the 3 literally dropped dead. It is SO awful. It makes me terrified to add another budgie to our flock.
zazanomore Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:12 am
I'm really starting to think that the Canadian breeding stock is better than the American. I haven't heard any budgie horror stories here in the great white north.
Bonnie and Clyde came from a petsmart in Ottawa. I will of had them for three years in April. I've never had any health problems with them.
Madoc seems just as happy and just as healthy. But I guess who never know...
patdbunny Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:42 am
zazanomore wrote:
I'm really starting to think that the Canadian breeding stock is better than the American. I haven't heard any budgie horror stories here in the great white north.
Bonnie and Clyde came from a petsmart in Ottawa. I will of had them for three years in April. I've never had any health problems with them.
Madoc seems just as happy and just as healthy. But I guess who never know...
That could very well be. Also - is it easier to import birds to Canada from other countries? Some of the US inbreeding issues (in addition to indiscriminate mass production), not just with budgies, is the lack of diverse blood lines due to the difficulty in importing them into the US. There's european stock of various parrots that aren't wild caught, but the hassle and expense in importing them make it hard to get them into the US.
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:49 am
Oh - and budgies are reputed to be the Typhoid Mary's of the bird world in terms of carriers for polyoma virus.
VickiNumbers Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:13 am
patdbunny wrote:
zazanomore wrote:
I'm really starting to think that the Canadian breeding stock is better than the American. I haven't heard any budgie horror stories here in the great white north.
Bonnie and Clyde came from a petsmart in Ottawa. I will of had them for three years in April. I've never had any health problems with them.
Madoc seems just as happy and just as healthy. But I guess who never know...
That could very well be. Also - is it easier to import birds to Canada from other countries? Some of the US inbreeding issues (in addition to indiscriminate mass production), not just with budgies, is the lack of diverse blood lines due to the difficulty in importing them into the US. There's european stock of various parrots that aren't wild caught, but the hassle and expense in importing them make it hard to get them into the US.
Which is another reason that I'm strongly considering an EB/AB hybrid. Does anyone know if the EB/AB offspring are fertile? I'd think that they are because they're so closely related, but I really have no idea.
Is there anyone else in the US who's seen some EB's near them?
I suppose something else I need to think about is the ethics of cross-breeding these two lines.... Anybody have any ideas on that? (Here's a whole new can of worms!)
patdbunny Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:27 am
VickiNumbers wrote:
patdbunny wrote:
zazanomore wrote:
I'm really starting to think that the Canadian breeding stock is better than the American. I haven't heard any budgie horror stories here in the great white north.
Bonnie and Clyde came from a petsmart in Ottawa. I will of had them for three years in April. I've never had any health problems with them.
Madoc seems just as happy and just as healthy. But I guess who never know...
That could very well be. Also - is it easier to import birds to Canada from other countries? Some of the US inbreeding issues (in addition to indiscriminate mass production), not just with budgies, is the lack of diverse blood lines due to the difficulty in importing them into the US. There's european stock of various parrots that aren't wild caught, but the hassle and expense in importing them make it hard to get them into the US.
Which is another reason that I'm strongly considering an EB/AB hybrid. Does anyone know if the EB/AB offspring are fertile? I'd think that they are because they're so closely related, but I really have no idea.
Is there anyone else in the US who's seen some EB's near them?
I suppose something else I need to think about is the ethics of cross-breeding these two lines.... Anybody have any ideas on that? (Here's a whole new can of worms!)
I see EB's at the bird mart all the time. Some are touted as show quality. Dunno. Dunno about showing budgies. As for the ethics of cross breeding - even pure EB's if they're not "show quality" they really have no "value" other than for a pet. By that line of reasoning - you're breeding for improved pet quality, therefore, I don't see how it would be "unethical" to cross the two. I'm pretty sure AB/EB crosses are fertile as they're the same species, not even subspecies of each other. One's been selected for larger stock and the other's not (I may be wrong on the selection aspect as I'm not a budgie expert).
I'm breeding FOR PETS english/american zebra finch crosses. I'm of the opinion the american zebras seem "unhealthy" and so I'm pairing with english show zebra blood to try to improve the health. These crosses are fertile.
Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:53 am
Zaza - yours were probably bred at the Hari Institute (aka Hagen) in Quebec...I'm assuming PetSmart logically would purchase from the same place that Super Pet did. We never had sick budgies when I worked there - they were always perky, no difigurements, and none ever came back sick/deceased - a pretty good track record considering I was in two larger stores in my day...and I saw hundreds of budgies over this time.
I bred tiels, as my first "adult" parrot purchase was one from one of my co-workers/friends who bred...then I bought one of her pairs & bred them until I started working in an office. I'm sure had she bred budgies, I would of taken one home as well, as she did such an excellent job with her babies. And I kept to the Grey theme until Rosco came around.
My 6-year old neice has a budgie, and Mesi (aka Messy) has a hoot with her - she has the cutest big personality in a little body I'm hoping she keeps the Avian desire within my neice (they have no other pets, and wouldn't of had Mesi had we not given her to my neice as a gift).
I like your reasons
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:51 pm
I love your arguments and very professional post. I have to argue with you a bit
I love budgies, I started "being a bird person" from Mango-budgie and look at me now... I don't think that any alive creature is disposable, boring or stupid. Nature is so fascinating!
1. Intelligence- agree 2. Beauty - agree 3. Initial Cost and Cost of Care - agree 5. Ability of Speech and Mimicry - agree
4. Quiet My limit is 3 budgies. My bf's is 2. When I had 4 of them, they seemed to always be loud. Of course another birds are louder, but budgies never stop. Lucky is a perfect alarm clock: there is no possible to sleep, when he is calling. Budgies for example are perfect watching movie intruders. It's like the small dog syndrome: the smallest, the loudest. Now I realized, I'm getting older. Couple of years ago, small and non stop barking dog didn't bother me
But on the other hand, why can't I have in the future only 2 budgies, agree with this one too after all
patdbunny wrote:
The downside is that it seems they're so inbred they drop dead way prematurely. Just on our little limited forum, how many have dropped dead within 1 year of acquisition? Statistically, it seems a very high percentage. Very sad and heart breaking to bond to a beloved little pet and have it die so soon.
Agree, like I said: I blame the mass production...
zazanomore Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:56 am
But I guess the level of "quiet" can be subjective.
patdbunny Hyacinth Macaw
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Subject: Re: Top Five Reasons Budgies Are the Perfect Pet Parrot Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:52 am
zazanomore wrote:
But I guess the level of "quiet" can be subjective.
My husband doesn't think budgies are "quiet" as they're so incessant.
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