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ScooterNScotty
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PostSubject: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 7:58 pm

I pulled this book off my shelf recently and have been diving back into it. It's not what the title calls it, and it's not a light read, but it is about as much solid information relevant to companion parrots I've seen in one place. I've recommended it before, but I thought it was worth mentioning again. The book is about 5 years old, which seems to be pretty current in parrot research. I will say, I paid nothing like the current Amazon price for it, so if isn't reissued soon you might want to look for it at a library. It devotes relatively little space to pet-relevant behavior, but it does cover the current state of knowledge about parrots ranging from behavior in the wild to nutrition to cognition to the effect of handler attitude on chick development and there are several articles relevant to plucking, agrression, etc.

It reads more like a conference proceedings than a lay reference book, but if you aren't intimidated by a certain amount of scientific language, this is straight from the researchers doing the relevant research -- each "chapter" is a review of the research on a given subject. I'm an astronomer, not a biologist, and it's not so technical that I have much trouble with the language, but it is a bit on the dry side -- with lots of references to refereed and conference papers.
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henpecked
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 8:06 pm

Hey SnS, may i suggest reading some of Dr Howard Voren's work. Roz sites his articles sometimes,A lot of his work is with breeding but he spent years collecting and observing Parrots in Cenral and South America and has tons of insight,I think you might enjoy some of his topics. voren.com
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ScooterNScotty
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Join date : 2011-05-24
Age : 63
Location : Southern California
My Birds : Scooter
* "Normal" male Green-cheeked Conure
* (hatched 3/2010)

Scotty
*male Cape Parrot
*(HD unk ~2008)

Blanco (Caballo Blanco)
*Whitefaced male cockatiel
*(HD unk, found 4/2012)
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 8:10 pm

I've bookmarked that, thanks! He seems definitely into color mutations from the home page!

Edited to add: you have to like a guy who creates a lecture title such as "The Creation of the Maladjusted Parrot To Politically Pacify Psittacine Concerned Citizens". I am going to suspect he's an opinionated guy... but I like him already.
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henpecked
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 8:20 pm

If you think his articles are opinionated you should meet him inperson.I consider him a good friend but you better have your "ducks in a row"when you voice an opinion.
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patdbunny
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 8:27 pm

Thanks. I'll definitely have to check this book out. I like reads that aren't about "Paulie & You".
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ScooterNScotty
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Join date : 2011-05-24
Age : 63
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My Birds : Scooter
* "Normal" male Green-cheeked Conure
* (hatched 3/2010)

Scotty
*male Cape Parrot
*(HD unk ~2008)

Blanco (Caballo Blanco)
*Whitefaced male cockatiel
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 9:09 pm

henpecked wrote:
If you think his articles are opinionated you should meet him inperson.I consider him a good friend but you better have your "ducks in a row"when you voice an opinion.

Ducks or parrots? I have colleagues and relatives like that, so I can well imagine what you are saying.
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patdbunny
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyTue Jun 21, 2011 9:30 pm

"Supposedly" you can download the book for free if you join this site:
http://www.elib4vet.com/

I disavow any knowledge as I haven't tried it yet.
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ScooterNScotty
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Join date : 2011-05-24
Age : 63
Location : Southern California
My Birds : Scooter
* "Normal" male Green-cheeked Conure
* (hatched 3/2010)

Scotty
*male Cape Parrot
*(HD unk ~2008)

Blanco (Caballo Blanco)
*Whitefaced male cockatiel
*(HD unk, found 4/2012)
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 10:16 pm

Edited to clarify -- I mean the site Roz posted just above.

I'm a little wierded out by the way that site is presenting itself. Do you know anything about it's origin? If it is legit it sounds as if it would be really, really useful. OTOH, I have a sinking feeling they may be violating copyright.


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GlassOnion
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 10:27 pm

I always seem to be flowing against the current, but I actually believe/agree with a lot of Howard Voren's opinions and heresays.
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ScooterNScotty
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Join date : 2011-05-24
Age : 63
Location : Southern California
My Birds : Scooter
* "Normal" male Green-cheeked Conure
* (hatched 3/2010)

Scotty
*male Cape Parrot
*(HD unk ~2008)

Blanco (Caballo Blanco)
*Whitefaced male cockatiel
*(HD unk, found 4/2012)
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 10:53 pm

GlassOnion wrote:
I always seem to be flowing against the current, but I actually believe/agree with a lot of Howard Voren's opinions and heresays.

I meant the vet-docs site, not Voren's, in case that wasn't clear!!! I agree with some of what he has to say as well. I have only read a few of the items on the site so far.
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ScooterNScotty
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Join date : 2011-05-24
Age : 63
Location : Southern California
My Birds : Scooter
* "Normal" male Green-cheeked Conure
* (hatched 3/2010)

Scotty
*male Cape Parrot
*(HD unk ~2008)

Blanco (Caballo Blanco)
*Whitefaced male cockatiel
*(HD unk, found 4/2012)
Posts : 2248

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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 11:02 pm

In fact, the more I read, the more I agree with. This article on gender bias sounds right on to me!

http://www.voren.com/articles/gender-preference/
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patdbunny
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PostSubject: Re: "Manual of Parrot Behavior"    "Manual of Parrot Behavior"  EmptyWed Jun 22, 2011 11:23 pm

ScooterNScotty wrote:
Edited to clarify -- I mean the site Roz posted just above.

I'm a little wierded out by the way that site is presenting itself. Do you know anything about it's origin? If it is legit it sounds as if it would be really, really useful. OTOH, I have a sinking feeling they may be violating copyright.

No, I know nothing about the site and have not tried it out. It's just something I stumbled on. I'm supposing they're getting around copyright issues by not being in a country that can enforce.'

I tend to agree with Howard Voren a lot more than I agree with what I read by EB Craven.
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